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dit VANTHOELOND

ginnystruyf
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While searching I found a family member that served in the military in 1815. Behind his name is the term "dit Vanthoelond". What does this term mean?

zanzigirl
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Hi,

"dit" literally means "said" (here "called"), so VANTHOELOND was his nickname.

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ginnystruyf
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Thank you so much! Does Vanthoelond have some special meaning? Is it a true name or a descriptive term? I have tried to translate it and get nothing. His birth name is Jean and I am just wondering how he would get a nickname like that.
Thanks in advance...

chmidelear
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Hello !

Do you have a copy or a link to the document where this nickname appears ?

It sounds dutch but doesn't mean anything...

Christian

ginnystruyf
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Hello Christian,

I found it in Projet Matricules 1802-1815. His name is listed as DEGRES dit VANTHOELOND, Jean Baptiste, number 236856. I feel sure that it is Dutch since he was born in Belgium. Thanks for the info!
Ginny

zanzigirl
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Hi,

Unfortunately the website on which you can see the original document is down at the moment, it should be back by early June...

Claudine
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chmidelear
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Hello again !

You mean this one : https://www.geneanet.org/archives/releves/search_etat_civil.php?search=236856&clef=dep_91&ref=fraalsf67und5&place=UND&sens=liste

The original website "mémoire des hommes" is unavailable right now : i think it will be possible to see the original document from there... VANTHOELOND is perhaps a wrong transcription

Edit : sorry Claudine... I didn't see your message

chmidelear
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I've found something interesting meanwhile

See here and click on the litte magnifying glass on the right side : https://search.arch.be/fr/rechercher-des-personnes/resultats/q/persoon_achternaam_t_0/van%20toelant/q/persoon_voornaam_t_0/jean%20baptiste/q/zoekwijze/s?M=0&V=0&O=0&persoon_0_periode_geen=0

This is a document from the belgian state archives : it states that a soldier called Jean Baptiste Van Toelant was replaced in 1806 by another guy called Jean Baptiste De Gres

ginnystruyf
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Claudine,

That is the site that I mentioned showing Jean Baptiste De Gres. I tried to access the site that you sent but it seemed to be down. Can you tell me what information I need to put in to do a search? I really appreciate these little tidbits of information. So exciting!

Ginny

zanzigirl
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Hi Ginny,

The website I was talking about is back!

http://www.memoiredeshommes.sga.defense.gouv.fr/fr/ark:/40699/e0052abc36ce2565/52abc36dcddea

It confirms what was said before: your ancestor was nicknamed Vanthoelond as he replaced somene called that name... ;)

Claudine
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